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Q & A Sessions: In Vitro Fertilization (IVF)

Our experienced Penn Fertility Care physicians answered your questions about in vitro fertilization (IVF).

To learn more, read about our IVF services.

Hopeless asks:
Earlier this year, my husband and I tried IVF and had no luck. We desparately want to have a child together. I have a 15 year-old from a previous marriage. Unfortunately, our insurance does not cover it. Is there any financial aid available? Also, is there any other procedure that we could try? I don't have any tubes tied so I guess we are limited.

I seemed to make eggs fine (with medications) and his sperm was excellent. However, the egges we used didn't grow to full blast and the doctor said that this wasn't a factor. Can you give us some sort of direction? I'm out of answers and do not know what to do next.

Response:
In order to address your problem properly, a consultation would be necessary. However, it seems that IVF may be your only option. To schedule an appointment with a Penn Fertility Care specialist, please call 1-800-789-PENN (7366) or visit pennhealth.com to schedule an appointment online.

Candy asks:
I have been under the care of a fertility specialist for the past three years. I have had three miscarriages. Two of the pregnancies were achieved through IVF and one through Clomid and intercourse. I have had extensive tests done to find out why the pregnancies don't make it past the first trimester.

The longest pregnancy was nine weeks (that was my first). The second pregnancy ended at eight weeks with the last HCG reading being over 7,000. The third didn't make it past five weeks. The doctors can't seem to find anything wrong and tell us that we are "able" to have children and to keep trying. However, I am concerned that there is something wrong that they haven't found yet.

What would you do for a patient in my situation? I even had the test done that tells if clotting is a factor in the misses. The embryos that have been transferred have all been the highest level on their scale. The only thing they haven't tested is the miscarriage tissue. I know this is a long statement but we just don't know what to do next. We are thinking of trying another doctor. That is the reason for this question.

Kurt Barnhart, MD, MSCE responds:
I am sorry for your losses. Now is a good time to have someone with fresh eyes look at your entire case. That would allow an expert to see if all tests have been performed to help you. Overall, you still have a very good chance of having a healthy baby. If you do have a loss again, it does make sense to have the tissue examined.

Michele asks:
I am wondering what steps are involved in a frozen embryo transfer (FET)? I have a one year old that was concieved through in vitro fertilization (IVF) and I have eight frozen embryos. I was wondering how long a FET cycle takes and what medications are involved?

Kurt Barnhart, MD, MSCE responds:
I am so happy to hear about your success with IVF. Protocol for an embryo transfer differ a little bit depending on the program. Our program uses lupron to suppress your cycle and them we rebuild the lining of your uterus with estrace (pills).

We check your lining with an ultrasound and blood work and if you are ready to go we thaw the embryos. You then start progesterone at least until we find out if you are pregnant. Hopefully you are, and then we continue the progesterone until 10 weeks gestation.

Meera asks:
I suffer from endometriosis and underwent surgery for a bilateral ovarian cyst five years ago. Now my husband and I, both 29, have been trying for conception for one year. My husband has asthenozoospermia.

Is IVF the only option? Do foods containing phytoestrogens help? What are our success chances through IVF?

Samantha Butts, MD responds:
Making the decision for any treatment for infertility certainly requires the help and consultation of a specialist and if you have not seen one yet, I would recommend making an appointment. At that time, the physician who sees you will be able to interpret the entire health work-up you've had, potentially make recommendations for additional evaluation and the suggest treatment options that would work for you.

IVF as a first line treatment of infertility is usually reserved for select patients who have specific diagnoses, but depending on how aggressive you want to be with your treatment and your evaluation, your physician can discuss with you how appropriate IVF is for treatment.

I don't know of any good quality studies looking at phytoestrogens for the treatment of infertility. I would consult with your physician before taking any treatment that does not have an official indication for infertility treatment.

If you would like to schedule an appointment with a Penn Fertility Care specialist, please contact 1-800-789-PENN (7366) or you can also request an appointment online.

Heather asks:
There is a lot of information available on the use of acupuncture (and herbs) to enhance fertility and increase success rates of IVF. Does your office offer or coordinate with such services? What is your belief about their effectiveness?

Response:
You are correct. There is quite a bit of evidence that such interventions do help with IVF. I think it is clear that a woman that is relaxed, and has minimized stress has a better chance of conceiving. What is unclear is what method will work for each individual.

We do not coordinate acupuncture at our office, but will happily try to accommodate any arrangements you make. We have had a number of women arrange such procedures and happily it has worked for a large number of them.

Karen RN asks:
I just recieved my day two FSH 9.8 estrogen 35. I'm starting my IVF cycle today, finally after high FSH levels, 10.4 and 15.6. Prior to this blood test I started taking grass wheat pills. I don't know if this helped or not. I would like to continue to take them during the IVF. Can this cause any harm? Also I would like to thank you for giving me the encourgement in your last response.

My second question of my protocol for this cycle, which is my second try (first one failed only able to use two eggs). I have 1/4 of my ovary left and I am 36 years old (endometriosis is my problem). 450 gonalf in the morning and two amps of repronex in the evening. What do you think?

Response:
Although the manufacturers of wheat grass pills state that they may even be beneficial before or during pregnancy (and probably are) since they may serve as sources of folic acid, my general dictum is to avoid any unproven as "safe" medications during pregnancy. Without seeing your history of the previous cycle, I cannot offer any comment on the protocol.

Cynthia asks:
I am a Penn employee with Keystone East health care. I am almost 39 and single. With my clock running out I'm considering storing some embryos produced from my eggs and donor sperm for the future. I'm not in a financial situation where I can raise a child on my own right now but would like to keep the option for the future.

What would the cost be to do this? I notice that the PennCare program which is an insurance option for me covers one round of IVF. Would this situation apply? If so, would I have to wait until open enrollment next year as I missed this term to switch and currently have Keystone East. By the time open enrollment comes around again I will be nearly 40. I hope that you can answer some of my questions.

Response:
Cynthia, your way of thinking is appropriate. I cannot answer the details of the insurance coverage situation; however, most likely the PennCare option would cover your procedure, but, I know, will not cover the freezing and storage of embryos. Freezing and storage fees are relatively low when you consider how expensive the actual IVF cycle and the medications are.

I would advise you to make an appointment and come in and see us. At that time we can discuss the options and also review the insurance coverage, so you can make an informed decision soon. If you would like to schedule an appointment, please call 800-789-PENN (7366) or visit pennhealth.com to schedule an appointment online.

Mary asks:
I recently had a cancelled IVF cycle because only one antral follicle was seen with ultrasound. I was on a non-lupron cycle (repronex 175 and follistim 225). My FSH and E2 have generally been within the preferred ranges. Does the one follicle mean I am no responding and IVF is futile? Should I switch to donor egg or if I simply switched my protocol would it be okay?

Response:
I am sorry to hear that your last cycle of IVF was not optimal. You ask a very difficult question: basically you are asking how much time and effort you should put into another IVF cycle, especially if your chances of success are "guarded." That is a very personal question.

Of course, donor egg will give you a much higher chance of success (in our program 60 percent have a baby with one cycle, and if you add in the babies born with the frozen/thawed embryos from the first cycle, the success rate is 86 percent). However, there are obvious limitations of donor egg.

Sometimes your own IVF cycle can be dramatically improved by changing the protocol. You should ask what will be changed, and why. Often this conversion is much better in person. We would be happy to help you with this decision. If you would like to schedule an appointment with a Penn Fertility Care specialist, please call 800-789-PENN (7366) or schedule an appointment online.

Mary asks:
I am 36 in good health and have had low (<10) FSH and a good E2. I had mild endometriosis, which was surgically removed. My first IVF cycle (no Lupron) was just cancelled because only one follicle was visible during ultrasound. Does changing IVF protocols typically affect IVF success rates?

Response:
I am sorry to hear about the cancellation of your cycle. I am sure that was very frustrating and disappointing. The specific IVF protocol you use should be tailored to you and your history.

Changes should be made to optimize your chance of success. If the low response can be correct (and I think it can), your chance of success should still be high. Sometimes a fresh pair of eyes helps find a hidden issue so I would suggest getting a second opinion. I wish you good luck.

Julie asks:
I am due to start IVF since I have blocked tubes (Hydrosalpinges). While doing the routine blood tests, it turned up that my hormones are all over the place which suggests anovulation as well. I am 30 years old with normal body weight and have regular 28 day cycles.

I am confused, what may be causing my anovulation since I don't have PCOS symptoms and I am not missing periods. Does this cause my my IVF chances to be reduced further still? Is there anything I can do to help?

Response:
Anovualtion in itself will not decrease your success with IVF. In fact, IVF is a treatment for anovualtion. However, starting IVF at the correct time in your cycle is critical. Thus, having hormones that are not predictable can affect your IVF cycle. One note: the presences of hyprodalpinx will decrease your success of IVF. Often we recommend having them removed first. You may want to consider a second opinion to go over all of these factors in person.

Rm3989 asks:
My husband and I have been trying to conceive for two and a half years. After all the appropriate testing with our doctor, we have been diagnosed with unexplained infertility. We've tried three cycles of clomid with no luck and then went to injectable follistim. We got pregnant on the first try, but unfortunately miscarried at 11 weeks. Since then, we've done two more cycles of follistim with no success.

We feel it's time to move forward with IVF, however, my reproductive endocrinologist practice is on IVF shut-down the month of December, which is when we would have the IVF procedure. Would it be feasible to switch to your practice at this point, for us to have our records transferred to your center now for you to review, and then have the IVF procedure done there within a month? Or would you need to conduct your own testing beforehand?

Response:
I agree that it may be time for you to move to IVF. However this is a big step, and it should not be rushed. It should be optimized. We are not currently closed, but it may take 4-6 weeks to start and finish a cycle. Please contact us by calling 800-789-PENN (7366) if you would like more information.

Lori asks:
I had my tubes tied and want to know if they can be reversed or can I have invitro done? I have two boys from my first marriage and my second husband does not have any children. I am 40 years old.

Kurt Barnhart, MD, MSCE responds:
In general the chance of having a baby with IVF at age 40 is about 30%. We could do some other blood tests to see if your chances are different from that percentage. That chance is likley higher than the alternative of having your tubal ligation reversed.

Assuming you are otherwise healthy, you are a candiate for IVF as long as you recognize the chance that it may or may not work. It is best to have these options explained to you by a reproductive specialist in person. We would be happy to talk to you further about all of your reproductive options.

Naomi asks:
I am 44 years old, and have had several miscarriages (one loss was at eight weeks). There are no sperm problems and I had tubal surgery. Can I try IVF?

Steven Sondheimer, MD responds:
In vitro fertilization (IVF), is the fertilization of an egg by sperm outside of the body and the transfer of the fertilized egg back to the womb. As women approach their late 30's and 40's the number and quality of eggs remaining in the ovary decreases. IVF depends on a very healthy egg for the best success.

IVF is seldom successful with the eggs of a 44 year old. Even if fertilization occurs, often the pregnancy does not continue normally. Today many couples who are in your situation consider alternatives such as adoption or avail themselves of donor eggs from a woman under age 34. You would still carry the pregnancy. I hope this is helpful and good luck with your decision.

Shawna asks:
I have had two children and after my second child decided to have a tubal ligation. Who would've guessed we divorced and I have since remarried. My husband now does not have children and we'd like to have a larger family. We would like to do this in vitro but neither one of us want to be on hormone medication to make this happen. Is there a way they can take my eggs without having to be on all the medication? I didn't have any complications conceiving the first two times.

Clarisa Gracia, MD, MSCE responds:
It is possible to perform IVF without having to stimulate your ovaries with hormone injections. Unfortunately, it is much less successful this way, even if you had no trouble conceiving on your own in the past!

If you were my patient, I would recommend using the medications. However, you should talk to your physician about the pros and cons to determine what is best for you.

Lauren asks:
I was reading about the whole IVF process and it said something about a needle to retrieve the eggs. Where does this needle go? Are you put to sleep during this? How long does it take? Are there side effects (i.e. weight gain, etc)?

Clarisa Gracia, MD, MSCE responds:
The needle is inserted through the vagina along with an ultrasound probe. This procedure is usually performed while you are asleep. The procedure takes between 20 minutes and one hour. Side effects from IVF include abdominal bloating, mild weight gain, enlargement of the ovaries.

Some women experience a complication called ovarian hyperstimulation which can required frequent monitoring, draining fluid from the abdomen and at times even hospitalization. If you go through the IVF process, your physician will explain the process thouroughly so that you understand all aspects.

Papino asks:
I am 35 years old with blocked fallopian tubes. I have just undergone an IVF cycle that was not successful. I had ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome (OHSS) and the doctor says this decreases one's chances of success. What should I do to ensure the next time I have higher chances of success.

Samantha Butts, MD, MSCE responds:
In vitro fertilization (IVF) is an excellent treatment for tubal factor infertility (blocked fallopian tubes) but is not perfect, even in patients who are young and have no other reasons for infertility. You should sit down with your physician and review the cycle at length focusing on any changes he or she would implement to improve your chances the next time.

Also, if you stimulated well enough to have frozen embryos, you could consider doing a frozen embryo transfer that would spare you the need to have to be stimulated again with fertility drugs.

Robinhood asks:
I have three healthy girls. I had an ovary removed and tubal a few years ago. Husband, children and I would like another baby. I am 30 and he is 35. Do you think IVF could be for us?

Samantha Butts, MD, MSCE responds:
In vitro fertilization is an excellent option for treatment of infertility in young women who have fallopian tube problems (either damaged or blocked due to surgery) or have had tubal ligation. I wasn't sure based on the wording of your question but if you have one remaining tube and ovary, IVF would be a more effective option than putting your remaining tube back together and trying to conceive naturally.

You should have a consultation with an infertility specialist to discuss these options, get information about the risks and benefits of each and then make a decision.

Mary asks:
I am 40 years old and had my tubes tied after my third child two years ago. All three children were c-section because of my factor V laiden deficiency blood disorder. I administered two heparin shots daily during my pregnancies. We want another baby and I would like to know what options I might have. Is it possible to have a baby after tubes tied and everything else?

Penn Fertility Care responds:
In general after tubal ligation, in vitro fertilization is a successful procedure to obtain a pregnancy. The success rate is dependent upon your age and health history. We recommend that you have an evaluation by a fertility specialist as your next step.

Kim asks:
Two years ago I was diagnosed with an elevated FSH, around 14, and poor egg quality. After three failed IUIs with four amps of repronex I was told that my chances are slim and that it would be best to use an egg donor. It was also determined that I have one blocked tube and low progesterone levels. At that point I stopped treatment. I have recently remarried and we are anxious to start our family. I am 35 and my husband is 44.

We were curious if there are any newer treatments being used that may help with using my own eggs. If using a donor is still the best option, what is the wait time in finding one through your office? I remember that this process is a very time consuming one with all of the monitoring that needs to occur. How often would I have to be seen in the city or can I go to one of the other offices for the majority of my appointments?

Clarisa Gracia, MD responds:
While a high FSH does predict poor in vitro fertilization (IVF) success, this is not as true in younger patients such as yourself. It may be possible for you to have a baby through IVF using your own eggs, though the success rate is probably less than 25 percent/cycle. Alternatively your chances are probably close to 50 percent/cycle using donor egg.

We have a donor program at Penn Fertility Care and have active donors that are ready to start the process. If you are interested, just call the office and make an appointment for a consultation. Typically the process of choosing and screening a donor can take four to six weeks. The IVF process itself is a two-month process. The actual IVF procedure for you involves taking injections at home daily and hormone tablets. You will be required to go to one to three visits for blood work and ultrasounds during that time. (The donor will need to come much more often for monitoring).

If you are interested in learning more about this process, feel free to contact us at 1-800-789-PENN (7366) or request an appointment online.

Lahdedah girl asks:
Two years ago I gave birth to our fourth child. He was delivered by caesarean and I had my tubes tied at the time. Our baby died nine months later. It has now been 15 months since his death and I really want another baby. We want to do in vitro fertilization. Can I still get pregnant?

Steven Sondheimer, MD responds:
Many couples inquire about fertility potential after a sterilization procedure such as a female fallopian tube ligation (aka tubes tied) or male vasectomy. You should obtain the old surgical records and consult with an infertility specialist.

Often the best approach to pregnancy after tubal ligation is through in vitro fertilization. Even though you have had tubal ligation dependant upon your age, your ovaries may still be functioning normally and your uterus may still be capable of carrying a pregnancy.

If you would like to consult with a Penn fertility specialist, please call 1-800-789-PENN or request an appointment online.

Sha asks:
I just had an IVF procedure. In three days, I'm going to have blood work to see if I'm pregnant. When I went to the bathroom, I noticed a brown spot. I'm so axious to know if it means that I am not pregnant and the procedure may not have been successful.

Response:
Unfortunately in this situation, we cannot provide an answer to your question. Bleeding can mean several things including implantation spotting or miscarriage. Our suggestion is for you to contact your ob/gyn or specialist.

If you would like to consult with a Penn fertility specialist, please call 1-800-789-PENN or request an appointment online.

Bill asks:
My wife and I have already been checked out. Our insurance will not cover in vitro fertilization. Do you have any kind of financing or know anyplace that does finance?

Lynn Dwyer, Chief Administrative Director,
HUP-Reproductive Surgical Facility:

To date we have not provided financing for IVF; however, we do provide some self-pay discounts. We welcome you to come in for an IVF consultation with one of our physicians and you can obtain financial information at the same visit.

Mary asks:
I am a 25 year-old female. I have participated in your egg
donor program three times. Now, I am looking into having a baby myself, but my tubes have been tied since 2003. So I am trying to see if IVF is good choice for me. What do you think?

Response:
Thank you for being a part of our donor egg program. Donating an egg to a woman in need is an act of compassion and generosity. To answer your question. Tubal ligation is meant to be permanent but occasionally it can be surgically reversed. However, the surgical reversal is not always successful.

Often the best approach to pregnancy after tubal ligation is through in vitro fertilization (IVF). If your ovaries are functioning normally, and your uterus can still carry a pregnancy, IVF could be an option for you. I recommend that you see a specialist for an consultation and evaluation to determine if you are a candidate for IVF. If you would like to see a Penn Fertility Care specialist, please call 1-800-789-PENN or request an appointment online.

Sue asks:
I have just been through the IVF treatment. Everything was fine on egg collection day, the semen analysis was also fine. I got a phone call from the clinic telling me the eggs hadn't fertilized, they were not sure of the reason. How soon can I repeat the treatment?

Samantha Butts, MD MSCE responds:
You should not repeat the treatment until you have a frank discussion with your physician about what he or she believes was the reason for fertilization failure in your case. Sometimes we do not find a satisfactory answer but a discussion would give you an opportunity to ask questions and discuss potential adjustments that could enhance your odds of pregnancy in the future.

One option that is sometimes utilized when there is no fertilization on the day after egg retrieval is rescue ICSI in which sperm are injected directly into the egg. The fertilization rates vary with this treatment because it is routinely done on the day of egg retrieval (and typically for patients where the husband has abnormal sperm).

Sheryl asks:
Is it possible to use IVF after a tubal and a vesectomy?

Penn Fertility Care responds:
In general, after tubal ligation in vitro fertilization is a successful procedure to obtain a pregnancy. The success rate is dependent upon your age and health history. We recommend that you have an evaluation by a fertility specialist as your next step.

Judy asks:
I've just gone through an IVF cycle and I suffered from ovarian hyperstimulation, will this decrease my chances of success, also when should I expect a period if it doesn't work?

Samantha Butts, MD MSCE responds:
What we know currently about having developed ovarian hyperstimulation during your IVF treatment is that there is no definitive impact on the chances of achieving pregnancy. If this cycle is not a success the time until you get your period can vary but it often comes within a few weeks.

Denise asks:
I have severe endometriosis and have been taking Depo Lupron shots for the past six months. I am wondering how long would I have to be without any forms of birth control before I could safely be impregnated through in vitro fertilization? I would also like to know if it is necessary that I have a full period after stopping the Depo before I can be impregnated through in vitro?

Kurt Barnhart, MD, MSCE responds:
I hope the Lupron worked to alleviate your symptoms from your endometriosis. There is not specific time you have to wait to start IVF after Lupron. All that has to happen is your fertility specialists have to be sure where you are in your cycle.

One concern is that your ovaries are suppressed by the Lupron (by design) and you may need a higher dose of medicine to stimulate them again. Good luck.

Erin asks:
Regarding in vitro fertilization (IVF), if pregnancy fails after embryo transfer, will you definitely have spotting/bleeding?

Kurt Barnhart, MD, MSCE responds:
After an IVF cycle, you are usually on progesterone supplementation. That often prevents bleeding and spotting. You should have a pregnancy test (bleed test) checked at the correct time after your embryo transfer. If it is negative, you can stop the progesterone and you will get your period.

Some women get spotting before their pregnancy test, but that does not mean you are not pregnant. On the other hand, some women do not get spotting before the pregnancy test, but that does not mean you are pregnant. Good luck.

Elena asks:
Would you suggest we try another IVF procedure? Our history is this: we have one child conceived naturally (c-section), then could not get pregnant. We tried four IUI's with no success; then did three IVF's (pregnant on third, but miscarried at 8-9 weeks); just did FET which was negative. We are frusterated and broke, but ready to try with new doctor. What do you think? Obviously I can get pregnant, right?

Steven Sondheimer, MD responds:
I can imagine how disappointed and frustrated you must be after putting so much time, effort, hope and money in to these failed assisted reproductive technology (ART) cycles. I do not have enough information about you or your cycles to answer your question with the amount of knowledge you deserve. In general, I agree that you need to have another medical opinion from a reproductive endocrinologist who has lots of experience with a successful IVF lab. If you would like a second opinon, we would be happy to evaluate you.

Thinking outside of fertility treatment, I think it would be reasonable to accept that you have done all you could and IVF has not worked. Continuing this high tech process does wear on the body and emotional health and is unfortunately even less likely to achieve a pregnancy now than when you started with high hopes and an optimistic outlook. You still may get pregnant without medical intervention just as you did with your first pregnancy.

If you would like to schedule an appointment with a Penn Fertility Care specialist, please contact 1-800-789-PENN (7366) or you can also request an appointment online.

Terri asks:
I was wondering if there are any statistics on how long frozen embryos are viable for? I underwent IVF with your clinic one and a half years ago and, thanks to your wonderful clinic, I have a beautiful nine month-old little girl. I definitely want to do it again, but I am wondering if there is a time frame that is proven to be best for success. I have seven frozen embryos. Thanks again for my little one.

Samantha Butts, MD responds:
I am so happy to hear about your little girl and that our practice was able to help you conceive. To answer your question, unfortunatly there is not solid data on whether freezing embryos for a short time is worse for their viability than longer durations of freezing.

What we do know is that the quality of the embryos you produce (and the odds of pregnancy) is most strongly related to your age at the time they were frozen rather than at the time they are transfered. Therefore it is probably best to do a frozen embryo transfer when you are absolutely ready and not feel the need to rush.

Mel asks:
I got pregnant though IVF and am due in one month. My question may be a bit premature, but I am 36 and want to have another child. How long after stopping breastfeeding can I start to try again with a new IVF cycle?

Steven Sondheimer, MD responds:
It depends on the type of infertility problem you have. In general, you could start another IVF cycle immediately after weaning your newborn. Waiting until your child is a at least one year gives you a chance to better nourish the baby and seems to be associated with a bit bigger second child.

Mary asks:
I just turned 40. I have two children, the youngest is 14. After my son was born I had my tubes tied. I had no problems conceiving. I am considering having my tubes untied and having a third child. My husband is in his late 20's and also has a child to a previous marriage. Do you think IVF is a better solution than a tubal reversal considering my age? I am in excellent physical shape and have no health problems.

Steven Sondheimer, MD responds:
I'd begin by having your husband obtain a semen analysis and you to have your blood tested to evaluate for ovarian aging. If these tests are normal then you should review with your doctor the technique used to "tie your fallopian tubes." You should also review this information with the doctor that you are considering for your tubal reversal surgery. You need to know their operative experience, results and recommendations based on your individual situation and their experience.

If your surgeon's experience suggests better than a 50 percent chance of success, I think I would choose the surgical approach; otherwise, IVF is a good option. Remember, due to your age, you are at greater risk of pregnancy loss or carrying a pregnancy with Down's syndrome than you were 14 years ago. Also, the risk of tubal pregnancy is increased after surgical reversal.

Sarah asks:
I had my tubes tied in June 2000, and now I am in a new relationship. Is it possible to have a baby through IVF and how would I go about getting information on it?

Response:
Yes, it is possible to have a baby through IVF. The success rate is dependent upon your age and health history. We recommend that you have an evaluation by a fertility specialist as your next step.

If you would like information about the IVF program at Penn Fertility Care or if you would like to make an appointment, please call 1-800-789-PENN (7366) or you can request an appointment online.

Samantha asks:
Are there any statistics available regarding IVF success on women that have had thyroidectomy and are on thyroid hormone replacement (i.e. Synthroid)?

Steven Sondheimer, MD responds:
We are actually now looking at the question of subclinical hypothyroid problems and IVF success. But that is not your question. So, to answer your question, if you are on an appropriate dose of medication and well controlled I am not aware of any affect of thyroidectomy with replacement on your IVF success. Be aware that your thyroid medication needs may increase once you are pregnant.

Lucy asks:
I have been seeing a fertilty specialist for about four months now. I just turned 37. I have had a laporascopy in which they found a touch of endometriosis, some adhesions and a cyst which has all been removed to the best of their ability. I have had one intrauterine insemination (IUI) with Clomid and a second IUI with Gonal-f with no success. During the cycle with Gonal-F my doctor discovered my FSH level were around 12.5 on day three of my cycle, I also did not respond well to the injections, I only had two mature follicles with about 1500 units of Gonal-F.

I have decided to go forward with IVF in April but my doctor said my chances of conceiving are in the "low teens" due to my adhesions and FSH level being elevated and also a low sperm count is involved. My doctor said he will have me on Clomid and injectables to increase the amount of eggs to give me more of a chance. I trust my doctor completely but just wanted another opinion on my chances of conceiving with IVF with ICSI.

Richard Tureck, MD responds:
A follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) level of 12.5 on day three of the cycle is a bit elevated (would like to see it below 11). From the information you provided, the percentages your doctor quoted to you seem to be correct.

Rachel asks:
I had an ectopic pregnancy last year which needed surgery. This month I have the uterine dye test to see if my fallopian tube is still viable. Since I only have one fallopian tube I'm a little worried that the ectopic damaged my tube.

Am I considered high-risk for another ectopic no matter what procedure I get? I've been on hormones and injectiables. The next step is in vitro fertilization (IVF). Are my chances better with IVF since the egg is implanted? Or am I still high risk for another ectopic?

Richard Tureck, MD responds:
Even if the dye test shows that your tube is open, you are still at increased risk for an ectopic pregnancy. IVF is less of a risk for an ectopic pregnancy, but still may occur.

Stephie asks:
I went through in vitro fertilization (IVF) in December and three embryos were transferred. I did get pregnant with two of the embryos, but one went to the only damaged tube that I had and the other went to the outer area of the uterus. Unfortunately, both embryos had to be removed and along with my only fallopian tube. My husband and I have decided to undergo another IVF procedure, but are wondering what are chances are of getting a healthy pregnancy.

Steven Sondheimer, MD responds:
You have been through some very traumatic events and I am sure this has been terribly stressful. None the less, if you and your husband should decide to undergo another attempt at pregnancy with in vitro fertilization and embryo transfer your chances of a successful pregnancy are probably as good as or better than before.

I would need your whole set of records including evaluation of your uterine cavity to make a fully informed judgment. Often a damaged fallopian tube can be detrimental to embryo implantation but now that tube is out. I wish you the best. If you think it would be helpful you could set up an appointment to be seen at our office. We would be happy to help you. If you would like to consult with a Penn fertility specialist, please call 1-800-789-PENN (7366) or schedule an appointment online.

Sherry asks:
Will not taking birth control pills reduce eggs produced in my IVF cycle? My doctor doesn't recommend that I use them. Should I find another doctor?

Steven Sondheimer, MD responds:
There are different ways to stimulate follicular growth and egg number as part of an in vitro fertilization program (IVF). In general, birth control pills do not increase or decrease the number of oocytes (eggs) obtained. There are individual variations with both patients and programs and so I would be comfortable with a doctor who uses or does not use the birth control pill as part of your protocol. Asking your doctor these questions is always a good idea. Do not be afraid of discussing your concerns with your doctor.

Icceey asks:
I had a bilateral tubal ligation and the tubes were cauterized. That took place nine years ago. I want to be able to have another baby. I know of in vitro fertilization and similar treatments. Those procedures are so expensive. Are there any alternatives which are less expensive? If so what are they and what's the cost?

Steven Sondheimer, MD responds:
To answer your questions, there are no less expensive approaches regarding pregnancy after tubal ligation. I would check with your health insurance company as well as you and your husband's health benefit advisor where you work. Some policies cover in vitro fertilization and some states mandate insurers to cover this type of infertility treatment.

Holly asks:
My husband and I have undergone three failed IUIs with clomid and HCG trig. Our main issues are that my husbands count is around 10 mil and motility is between 15-30%. Can you tell me how much the chances of conceiving go up from a clomid IUI cycle to an inject. IUI cycle?

We are weighing the options of going straight to IVF or persisting with a few more IUI cycles (unfortunately cost and insurance has become a factor). Both of us are 31 and so far I have had no problems with my follicles. Are IVF success rates usually around 50% for our circumstances?

Kurt Barnhart, MD, MSCE responds:
You are asking a great question. You are really asking should I give it time (and less recourses, hopefully) or be aggressive with a larger "investment" of time for a much greater chance of working.

I think you need to be more aggressive. Clomid IUI cycles have about a 8% chance of working in any one cycle Gondotropin IUI cycles (injectable medication) have about a 17% chance of working in any one cycle. IVF, in your situation, has at least a 50% chance of working in one cycle.

Much also depends on how good your husbands sample was "after the sperm wash" for the IUI. If there at least 4 million motile sperm your success is as I described above. If it is below that number the success of an IUI is less than half of the above numbers, while IVF is the same. You would benefit from a new consultation to go over all of your options.

Terri asks:
I have had both of my ovaries removed along with my fallopian tubes. Is it possible for me to have a successful IVF procedure?

Kurt Barnhart, MD, MSCE responds:
You can carry a baby, but the baby would have to be conceived with "donor eggs." To be more specific, you would choose an egg donor (we can find one for you through our Donor Egg Program, or you can find one yourself). This donor would undergo stimulation with fertility drugs to "make" a number of eggs. We would then get those eggs from the donor via an oocyte (egg) retrieval. The eggs would be fertilized with your partner's sperm and the embryos would be but back in you. You would then carry the baby.

The egg donation via IVF process has greater than 50% chance of working on the first try, and may result in creating additional embryos that can be cyopreserved (frozen). This would allow for a second attempt, if the first attempt failed or, if the first attempt succeeded, you could have try to conceive a second child. Please feel free to make an appointment to learn more about this procedure by calling us at 1-800-789-PENN.

Wondering asks:
Why is in vitro fertilization allowed to happen when often there are such high risk pregnancies with triplets and so on?

Christos Coutifaris, MD, PhD responds:
One of the risks of in vitro fertilization is multiple pregnancies. In recent years, due to the increased success, we have been markedly decreasing the number of embryos transferred in order to minimize or eliminate the risk of high order multiple pregnancies.

These issues are routinely discussed with each individual couple and the decision of which and how many embryos to transfer is made after appropriate informed consent. In our program over 95% of the deliveries are singletons or twins. One more point i need to add: Pregnancies conceived through in vitro, does not make the pregnancy "high risk".

Naomi asks:
I am a healthy 22 year-old female who has been trying to conceive for about two years now. I've tried taking my basal temperature and also invested $200 in a fertility monitor that is supposed to predict the best times to try. Nevertheless, I still have no baby and I've wasted numerous amounts energy.

Can my husband and I just go to a fertility doctor and request in vitro fertilization or do we have to wait some more? I really need to know this because it's also putting a strain on our relationship.

Christos Coutifaris, MD, PhD responds:
Although in vitro fertilization may not be the best next step, there is no question that you need to consult with an infertility specialist. If you have tried to achieve a pregnancy for more than one year (which you have), an infertility evaluation is warranted.

Before recommending treatment, a few simple tests should be performed. These can be planned with the help of a fertility specialist. Please call 800-789-PENN (7366) if you would like to schedule an appointment for a consultation to go over the process of a fertility evaluation. You can also request an appointment online.

Tray asks:
I have endometriosis and a blocked fallopian tube. I have had three attempts at IVF; all three failed. If I use clomid will this help?

Samantha Butts, MD responds:
My sense is that clomid seems like an appealing choice because of all you've been through with IVF which is much more involved than doing clomid and artificial inseminations. Based on the limited information you've provided though, it does seem like it would be taking a step backward.

One of the major drawbacks of taking clomid in your situation is your blocked fallopian tube. If the ovary on the side with the abnormal tube is the one that responds when you take clomid, you will not be able to be inseminated that cycle. I would recommend reviewing all of your IVF cycles with your physician and having an honest discussion about what if anything can be done differently and what your real chances are now.

Kathy asks:
I recently went through in vitro fertilization with ICSI. Today was my first blood test eight days after implantation. It was negative. However, I have no normal montly symptoms for starting my period. Is there still a good chance that I may be pregnant and if not when will my period be starting this month?

Steven Sondheimer, MD responds:
I usually transfer day three embryos, which have resulted from fertilization which occurred three days earlier. The day of fertilization by tradition is considered two weeks pregnant. Implantation probably occurs a week after fertilization or three or four days after transfer.

A pregnancy test is not positive until the HCG produced by the early pregnancy gets in to the mother's bloodstream. A pregnancy test can be reliable approximately two weeks after fertilization which is 10 or 11 days after transfer of the embryos. If a pregnancy test is obtained immediately after transfer it will usually be positive from the HCG injection given earlier.

On the other hand, if you do a pregnancy test too early, HCG, the pregnancy hormone may not be detected even with a normal pregnancy. So it is best to do the pregnancy test at the time recommended approximately 12 days after transfer. Best wishes to you!

Debra asks:
I am 49 years old and remarried. We want a baby of our own.
Am I too old to try in vitro fertilization?

Samantha Butts, MD responds:
Please note, that my response is not meant to be discouraging, it is however important to note that there are many factors to consider when trying to conceive after age 40.

As a general principal, we try to avoid strict cutoffs when making determinations about who can and cannot utilize IVF - every situation is different. That being said, the decision to proceed should be based on the risks, benefits and potential to succeed. After age 42, live birth rates are considerably lower and the chance of chromosomal abnormalities (i.e. Down's Syndrome) is significantly higher. Additional pregnancy related risks with respect to fetal growth, preterm delivery and maternal problems go up significantly with age. All of this sums up to risks to both to the mother and the baby that are not insignificant and that need to be seriously considered when making the decision to try to conceive.

Any woman trying to conceive in her 40's should be cleared by her physician and have a mammogram. She should be assessed like any other woman by a reproductive endocrinologist who can get her health history and counsel her accordingly. In some cases depending on the health of the mother, a preconception appointment with a high-risk obstetrician may also be necessary. After this workup an informed decision about trying to conceive can be made.

If you have further questions or would like to schedule an appointment with a Penn Fertility Care specialist, please contact 1-800-789-PENN (7366) or request an appointment online.

Waiting and Wishful asks:
I am 30 years old and have endometriosis and have received treatment over the years, but still have painful menstruation. I also have a misshaped uterus and have had three miscarriages. My ex-husband insisted on my tubal ligation in 1996 after our daughter was born because she was our third child.

I am now remarried to a wonderful man who has no children of his own and we would like to have a child desperately. Finances and insurance add to the physical obstacles. Can we go straight to in vitro and do you have payment plans to help with the financial burden?

Luis Blasco, MD responds:
Hello, IVF could be an answer to your problem however, tests of your uterus size and contour would be necessary. We do have a financial counselor who would be happy to meet with you to work through the financial issues.

Tonia asks:
My doctor told me that IVF is not as effective if endometriosis is not removed first. I had it removed, but am not at the point where I have exhausted other options and need to move to in vitro fertilization (IVF). I am now concerned that the endometriosis will return and if I need to have IVF, I will need to have another surgery. Does removing endometrisis improve success rates of IVF?

Christos Coutifaris, MD, PhD responds:
Our practice has published that the presence of endometriosis decreases all the parameters of an IVF cycle including the number of eggs retrieved, fertilization rate, implantation rate, pregnancy rate and delivery rate.

However, there is no study to show that pretreatment with surgery prior to IVF makes a difference. Thus, at the present time the published evidence does not support surgical treatment of endometriosis prior to proceeding to IVF. The most important issue in this case is your age. If you are over 35, I would recommend proceeding with IVF sooner rather than later regardless of the status of the endometriosis.

Kara asks:
My husband had a vasectomy years ago. Can sperm be taken from him and produce a baby via in vitro fertilization?

Kurt Barnhart, MD, MSCE responds:
Yes, it can. In fact in vitro fertilization is far preferable, and more likely to succeed than trying to have it reversed by a urologist. The procedure your husband would need is called PESA (percutaneous epidermal sperm aspiration). A needle is placed in the epidiimus (just above the testis) and sperm are obtained. The procedure is performed with your husband under sedation (not general anesthesia). We at Penn Fertility Care would be happy to assist you with these procedures.

If you would like to schedule an appointment with a Penn Fertility Care specialist, please contact 1-800-789-PENN (7366) or request an appointment online.

Kristie asks:
I had both fallopian tubes removed three months ago. Could I still become pregnant?

Steven Sondheimer, MD responds:
With both fallopian tubes removed, you only can become pregnant by utilizing in vitro fertilization technology. Since your ovary still has eggs, the eggs can be removed and fertilized in a "test tube" or dish, incubated and allowed to divide. The embryo or embryos are then transferred to your womb with a small catheter inserted through the mouth of the womb, vaginally.

I have been helping women achieve pregnancy with this approach for over 30 years. You may be a very good candidate to consider this but would need to make an appointment to review your whole medial history.

If you would like to schedule an appointment with a Penn Fertility Care specialist, please contact 1-800-789-PENN (7366) or request an appointment online.

Tina asks:
I am on my second marriage and, when I was with my first husband, I had my tubes tied after my second daughter was born (seven years ago). My husband now has had a vasectomy (eight years ago). Is there any chance that we could have in vitro fertilization or reversals?

Clarisa Gracia, MD, MSCE responds:
In vitro fertilization is your best option. Sperm can be retrieved from your husband's testicle or epididymis and used to fertilize your eggs. Then the embryos can be placed in the uterus. Your age is an important factor in success, however.

Shanelle W asks:
I am 26 years old and have had two previous surgeries — one for appendicitis at 22 months and one for adhesions at 12 years old. Now I have a tubal blockage from the adhesions. I am about to undergo in vitro fertilization (IVF), and I would like to know my chances of success.

Clarisa Gracia, MD, MSCE responds:
It really depends on the program you are going with. Most programs have success rates in your age group around 35-50 percent live birth per embryo transfer.

Bashful asks:
I am 40 years old and had a tubal ligation when I was 21. I have three children: ages 20, 19, and 18. I have recently remarried and I would really love to have a child with my husband. My doctor says it is possible with in vitro

What are my chances of having another child? And with a tubal ligation, what are my chances of getting pregnant the first try at my age? If I am not a candidate for in vitro, are my eggs still good to donate to someone who wants to have a child?

Kurt Barnhart, MD, MSCE responds:
In general the chance of having a baby with IVF at age 40 is about 30%. We could do some other blood tests to see if your chances are different from that percentage. That chance is likley higher than the alternative of having your tubal ligation reversed.

Assuming you are otherwise healthy, you are a candiate for IVF as long as you recognize the chance that it may or may not work. It is best to have these options explained to you by a reproductive specialist in person.

For you to donate an egg to someone else, the process would be very similar to the one used if you wanted to get pregnant yourself. We do have an donor egg program at Penn Fertility Care to assist those seeking donations and those willing to donate. We would be happy to talk to you further about all of your reproductive options.

praying queen asks:
I had a laparoscopic myomectomy in May 2002 and I have not been able to get pregnant, my husband and I want children together. Prior to my surgery in January 2002 I had a miscarriage at eight weeks.

After I had surgery the doctor said the only way that I would get pregnant is that I would have to do in vitro and I can never have a vaginal delivery with any pregnancy. What should I do and is that true? It's 2004 and I haven't gotten pregnant since 2002.

Also, how much is in vitro fertilization? Is there any hope to my infertility that maybe one day I may become pregnant? Could you help me on this please, if it's not too much to ask.

Richard Tureck, MD responds:
Unfortunately, without reviewing your records, it impossible to give you an appropriate answer to your question. If you would like a second opinion, we would be happy to meet with you. For either an appointment or for more information regarding our services including in vitro fertilzation call 800-789-PENN (7366).

Amanda asks:
I have a friend who has started IVF. In the first cycle, she was given the medicine Lupron and that wasn't working so they tried Gonal F. Only two eggs matured so they cancelled the procedure. She waited two months to start up again and they gave her Gonal F again. Now, no eggs are maturing, only two are starting but not matured. They increased the Gonal F and she's waiting until the next ultrasound in two days to see.

When she asked the doctor what else can be done if the Gonal F doesn't work, he said "I can't create miracles." Is he right? Should she stop hoping? Are there other drugs? Any information would help. I want her to go to you guys for a consultation, what do you think?

Kurt Barnhart, MD, MSCE responds:
It is a shame your friend's doctor was so glib. The process of getting enough eggs to mature is a very difficult one. Sometimes a women does not have enough eggs to respond to the medication. In that case the use of a younger woman's egg (donor eggs) can dramatically improve the chance of having a baby.

However, sometimes the number can be optimized by using the medications in what is called a flair protocol. Perhaps it is time for a second opinion. She can contact Penn Fertility care by calling 800-789-PENN (7366).

Ann asks:
I am 36 and my husband is 40. We have been diagnosed with unexplained infertility. I have had laparoscopies for endometriosis and have gone through two rounds of in vitro fertilization (IVF). The first time, there were no viable eggs, and the second time, three were transferred with no success. Is it worth trying IVF again, or are there any other options?

Steven Sondheimer, MD responds:
These are such important questions. These unsuccessful treatments have surely been very time-consuming and make it difficult to move on with your life to say the least. Sometimes, patients have to set limits, even if their doctors still have more ideas.

Having said that, I will try to answer your question. I really do not have enough information to give you responsible advice. I would want to know your repeated day three follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) and estradiol results. Also, what has been your worst FSH level? Did you produce multiple follicles? And how high of an estradiol level did you achieve?

If these results point to ovarian aging as the probable culprit, I think I would only attempt IVF again with donor eggs from a young, healthy donor.

Sandy asks:
My husband and I are both 40. Two years ago I had my tubes tied after giving birth to our second child. Now we wish we had not, we would like to have an other child. Would in vitro fertilization work for us?

Richard Tureck, MD responds:
The success of in vitro fertilization is dependent on many factors - hormonal status in particular (follicle stimulating hormone - FSH) is very important as an index of your particular chance for success. The older a woman gets the harder it is to conceive.

At Penn Fertility Care, we believe that even women over 42 with normal ovarian reserve (as indicted by a normal day 3-5 FSH) should be given the opportunity to undergo an IVF cycle. Other options for this sub-group of patients are egg or embryo donation or adoption.

Desperately Wanting asks:
I am a 30 year-old man with a wife of 34. She's been diagnosed that she cannot naturally have children due to massive scar tissue in her tubes. Our insurance does not cover IVF in the least bit, and the time it would take to save for the proceedues is incredible. The laws being passed to aid those in need are not enough and have too many loopholes.

Is there financial aid for such proceedures? If not, is there another form of preporaory medicine aside from injectibles (as they are not covered either)?

Christos Coutifaris, MD, PhD responds:
Unfortunately, we have no financial aid plans for IVF treatment. Frequently we participate in IVF